User talk:Devin

You have been blessed

+ Admin, + Bureaucrat. - Amgine 04:27, 23 November 2011 (CET)

Some needed pages, + tools to pass on

There are a couple pages which should probably get put together somewhat soon:

OccupyNet:Copyrights 

A basic policy stating the wiki is released under a single copyright license, and all contributions are formally released under the terms of that license. (an example at omw:OccupyMediawiki:Copyrights)

OccupyNet:Privacy policy 

A policy which addresses personally identifiable data on the server. You will want to see the OccupyMediawiki Group's policy as it affects yours: omw:OccupyMediawiki:Privacy policy

OccupyNet:Language policy 

This policy is referred to by the multi-lingual support templates I have imported to wiki.occupy.net. These templates allow a given page to be presented in multiple languages either automatically, via the user's language preferences, or via a linking template which gives a clear link to the page in other languages when they are created as subpages using the language code (such as [[Page title/fr]] or [[Page title/de]]). Again, an example is at omw:OccupyMediawiki:Language policy.

These are boring policy/legal pages, but they are heavily linked on the website and will help the wiki look more mature when they are present.

Some tools to look at include:

• Special:LonelyPages
• Special:WantedPages

- Amgine 02:54, 18 December 2011 (CET)

• Done. Used basically all your content. Thanks!

- Devin 10:11, 18 December 2011 (EST)

<grin> Well, at least they exist! I pretty much plagiarized them from Wikmedia Foundation... - Amgine 08:53, 18 December 2011 (CET)

A few notes

• Created a new user class - patrollers. Users added to this class can patrol edits, and their own edits are marked 'autopatrolled'. I added User:Lippe and User:Victorgc to this list (in part because they are the most prolific contributors, and in part because I've yet to see them do anything harmful.)
• The main page events is out of date.
• We are working on the server a bit today, so there may be some slow moments.

- Wikiadmin 19:26, 8 January 2012 (CET)

Your banner navbox

haz been templatified: {{Banner navbox}}. - Amgine / ^t·e 00:12, 24 January 2012 (CET)

• What are the benefits of having this in this type of template as opposed to the {{Template:____}} style ones?

Permabank

I saw you removed most of the Permabank content. It was a mess, so it makes sense to have a smaller & friendlier Permabank front page, but maybe it should live on a subpage or something? What's your thinking here?

• And, nevermind, I found the subpages. I made them a little more visible by adding summary subsections. -Djudd 14:12, 27 January 2012 (CET)

Changing the captcha

I would like to change the captcha to something a bit more difficult for the bots. I have an example set up on OccupyMediawiki.Org, if you want to test it out. - Amgine / ^t·e 02:01, 28 February 2012 (CET)

Wiki Admin Policies

That might be a Good Idea™. I have a fairly long history of involvement in online community governance; some of my thoughts on the matter are distilled in OccupyMediawiki:Policy.

You are almost certainly referring to Tunabananas. Here is the relevant RC log:

(diff | hist) . . N User talk:Tunabananas‎; 18:25 . . (+521) . . Wikiadmin (Talk | contribs)‎ (Hello! ) (Block log); 18:14 . . Wikiadmin (Talk | contribs)‎ unblocked Tunabananas (Talk | contribs) (Probably blocked in error) (diff | hist) . . m Directories‎; 18:10 . . (-132) . . Wikiadmin (Talk | contribs)‎ (Reverted edits by Tunabananas (talk) to last revision by Devin) (Block log); 18:09 . . Wikiadmin (Talk | contribs)‎ blocked Tunabananas (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled) (Spamming links to external sites) (diff | hist) . . Directories‎; 18:09 . . (+32) . . Tunabananas (Talk | contribs)‎ (→Open Space Directories: ) (diff | hist) . . Directories‎; 18:07 . . (+100) . . Tunabananas (Talk | contribs)‎ (→Open Space Directories: ) (User creation log); 18:04 . . Tunabananas (Talk | contribs)‎ New user account

I believe, if you examine the content of Directories, section Open Space Directories, you will see the content being added is not particularly related to the page's purpose/other content.

I hope you will also note the timestamps in the log: I was blocking after the first edit, and did not know of the existence of the second edit until after the block was applied. I took a few minutes to do research and found the user adding much the same content on several of the wikis we host, as well as other sites with which I am involved, and unblocked the user. I did not restore the content because I did not feel it belonged where it had been added.

I would dearly like to stop patrolling for spam on this wiki, which is my primary involvement here but it should not be my responsibility. We recently increased the strength of the captch (and simultaneously reduced the number of situations where it will be applied) in hopes of making the site less available to automated spam. But you can examine my contributions, logs to see I have been somewhat busy at that task. (btw: thank you very much for patrolling edits today!) - Amgine / ^t·e 09:19, 6 March 2012 (CET)

Admins on the way

That will be great! I would be happy to do a brief IRC/on-wiki presentation to help people get used to the extra buttons.

The idea of 'no bots, no marketing' is laudable, but probably not possible. There is disagreement as to what constitutes bot useage (for example, Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser is technically a bot, and could easily be used to spam a wiki.) And we are so steeped in marketing that we no longer notice it as marketing: mediawiki software adds links to people's user pages in the automagic signature, which is a form of marketing, and the entire Occupy.net Directory is a marketing project.

Perhaps a better model is "what is the mission of WON?"

• If an edit/revision does not support the mission of the wiki, it should be reverted.
• Sometimes users have a separate agenda from that of the wiki, and this is not wrong, but it does not mean the wiki must support their separate agenda.
• If they are unwilling to support the mission of this wiki when on this wiki, their access to editing may need to be curtailed.

Those three sentences support reverting or blocking bots and marketing when the bots and marketing are not supporting the wiki's missions and goals. (Incidentally, a wiki inextricably refers to the people/community who contribute, as well as their contributions and the software.) - Amgine / ^t·e 17:36, 7 March 2012 (CET)

Saluto translation

I added the wiki etiquette to {{Saluto}}, and have begun a Spanish language version of the template at {{Saluto/es}} (after noticing a number of new Spanish-language contributors from Europe.) The translations are probably full of usage errors - my Spanish is very rusty, so I relied heavily on machine translation - so I am recruiting some native speaker eyes, but if you know of anyone who can improve the content there I would appreciate the help. - Amgine / ^t·e 05:13, 12 March 2012 (CET)

Unexpected travel

I will be in the USA for a week+. I do not believe I will have regular internet access. I have added most of the regular contributors to the ON:Patrollers user group, which means their edits will also be auto-patrolled.

AeonFlux continues to monitor the wiki's recent changes, and is available via the #Wiki-support, #OWS-wiki, or #nycga-techops irc channels. I will try to remember to e-mail a cell # I can be reached at in the USA. (If I don't, please e-mail me a reminder.)

- Amgine / ^t·e 23:16, 12 March 2012 (CET)

Categories should be soft redirects

Generally it's a bad idea to do a hard redirect for a category. The usual practice is to place a text box such as:

This category should be empty. Articles which are related to Occupy Wall Street should have the category [[Category:Occupy Wall Street]] added instead of this category.

This is known as a 'soft redirect' because the reader must click the link to get to the redirected category. The reason it is considered bad practice to hard redirect a category page is it does not actually shift the category of articles. If you look at Category:OWS, you see there is still an article there. But going directly to Category:OWS you never see it because you are redirected.

- Amgine / ^t·e 08:21, 8 April 2012 (CEST)

I created {{Category redirect}} which makes this a bit simpler, and adds the deprecated category to Category:Categories which are soft-redirected, which can make deprecated categories easier to track. - Amgine / ^t·e 18:23, 8 April 2012 (CEST)

Thanks Devin 00:24, 9 April 2012 (CEST)

Talk:Projects#This page is becoming highly problematic

I replied there. - Amgine / ^t·e 00:31, 30 April 2012 (CEST)